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DYasha
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Added: Jul 10, 2010 6:22 am
I believe that documentary was showing how some top names in the fashion industry were trying to nail all the 14 year old young models and how they were getting them drunk and giving them drugs, etc. Do photographers have sex with models during or right after a photo session? Only the sleazy ones. It rarely happens, and most of the time the photographer is shut down by the model. If you are a legitimate photographer, you would never ask a model for sex. Maybe after working with her for a few sessions you might ask her out and see what develops (no pun intended. Honest). I think someone like Richard Murrian, who seems professional and has ethics, probably did that with Nancy. He worked with her a few times, they talked, they went out for drinks, and eventually they ended up getting together, but he didn't just ask her for sex out of the blue (I wouldn't think).
Herald
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Added: Jul 10, 2010 4:24 pm
sigmaproject wrote:
I saw that Doco in Australia many years ago. 14 year old "models" were taken to Gentlemen Clubs in Europe and basicly told to be nice to the old sleaze bags and the hangers on from the British Model Agency.
Did anything become of that ???

I've heard of that too, didn't Elite do this?
DYasha
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Added: Jul 10, 2010 7:22 pm
I thought it was Elite as well, but I could be mistaken. The undercover guy recorded some big wigs talking about how they were going to score with the fresh crop of models (ages 14-15). Yeah, they look older because they are 5'10'' but they are still 14! That's highly illegal in almost every country (every sane country). People in positions of authority getting 14 and 15 year old girls drunk and high just to have sex with them is wrong on so many levels. It was frowned upon and I think now they take steps to ensure that sort of thing doesn't happen. Or they make sure the guy isn't wearing a wire when they talk about sexually assaulting a 14 year old.
Herald
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Added: Jul 10, 2010 8:40 pm
DYasha wrote:
I believe that documentary was showing how some top names in the fashion industry were trying to nail all the 14 year old young models and how they were getting them drunk and giving them drugs, etc. Do photographers have sex with models during or right after a photo session? Only the sleazy ones. It rarely happens, and most of the time the photographer is shut down by the model. If you are a legitimate photographer, you would never ask a model for sex. Maybe after working with her for a few sessions you might ask her out and see what develops (no pun intended. Honest). I think someone like Richard Murrian, who seems professional and has ethics, probably did that with Nancy. He worked with her a few times, they talked, they went out for drinks, and eventually they ended up getting together, but he didn't just ask her for sex out of the blue (I wouldn't think).

I didn't mean that a photographer asks a model "hey let's have sex" after one shoot. It's more that after like two years of shooting and gradually getting her to do more revealing sets (because that's what the customers want) it's like "hey put on this thong and tiny bra, and we're in a hurry just do it in front of me".

Galatsin an Hegre already do nude from shoot 1 onward, but American models always start out as nonnude. So while Galatsin an Hegre already were looking at barely legal pussies when shooting, American photographers have to endure two years of shooting cotton panties before the model magically decides on her 18th birthday she wants to do thongs and topless.
So before the model is finally legal to show some skin the photographer has to encourage the model to do so. I don't imagine him to explain it as strictly business like "well when you're 18 you have to do this because otherwise you will lose customers" but more subtle so that in the end the models thinks she wants to do the more revealing shots and thus can claim when she's finally adult she wants to show her pussy.

The way I picture it is that when the photographer is spouting compliments that she looks great when she tries sexy when she's legally still a **** she's thinks she really is special and doesn't mind when he gives her the best compliment of all, that his dick gets hard because she's modeling so good. And after years of shooting together and him being the most understanding guy there is she doesn't mind giving something back.

Of course maybe I've read to many erotic stories and seen to many nineties Shannon Tweed movies Razz
BigA
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Added: Jul 11, 2010 12:38 am
You know, strangely it might be more common in the fashion world as the stakes are higher for the girls. The money is higher, the prestige is there so a disreputable agent or photographer can promise higher rewards for sexual favours.
DYasha
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Added: Jul 11, 2010 7:02 pm
I do remember a Dateline story (or was it 20/20) about a teenage model who was "tricked" into doing topless photos. Are there sleazy photographers in the porn industry? Yeah, but a majority of them aren't that sleazy. There are a number of cases where the photographer ends up dating the model after working together a number of times, but have you seen what those photographers look like?! They look like an open autopsy. I think once a photographer and a model have built up a repore, then they do the usual dating thing, not jump right into sex. I'm sure there are a lot of sleazy photographers trying to get the girls to go farther and to have sex with them. Isn't that basically what Pierre Woodman does? He asks the girls for a photoshoot and tries to convince them to do anal on camera.
BigA
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Added: Jul 12, 2010 12:43 pm
Yeah, building up a "rapport" with these girls at the start of their nude career obviously has its benefits. Galitsin is as ugly as a hat full of monkey bollocks but he pulled Valentina, got her in jail, knocked her up as well, and shagged another model in front of her on film.

Guess she aint that bright, or is doing everyone else too. Wouldn't blame her with that muppet!

Samantha Fox was apparently renowned for her oral skills at the start of her career, as was Jo Guest.
derekgraddy
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Added: Jul 12, 2010 11:35 pm
DYasha wrote:
I do remember a Dateline story (or was it 20/20) about a teenage model who was "tricked" into doing topless photos. Are there sleazy photographers in the porn industry? Yeah, but a majority of them aren't that sleazy. There are a number of cases where the photographer ends up dating the model after working together a number of times, but have you seen what those photographers look like?! They look like an open autopsy. I think once a photographer and a model have built up a repore, then they do the usual dating thing, not jump right into sex. I'm sure there are a lot of sleazy photographers trying to get the girls to go farther and to have sex with them. Isn't that basically what Pierre Woodman does? He asks the girls for a photoshoot and tries to convince them to do anal on camera.


I think Woodman stuff is pretty much staged.
derekgraddy
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Added: Jul 12, 2010 11:38 pm
sigmaproject wrote:
I saw that Doco in Australia many years ago. 14 year old "models" were taken to Gentlemen Clubs in Europe and basicly told to be nice to the old sleaze bags and the hangers on from the British Model Agency.
Did anything become of that ???


Do you know the name of this documentary? I remember on Dateline NBC here in the U.S several years ago where they showed how young models were having drugs, getting drunk, and going to parties with alot of older men there. It had some undercover footage where young models like 17-18, were making out with 40yr old men. They even had footage of the famous director Oliver Stone at that party kissing some young model. Not sure if this was the Australian doco you were talking about. Thanks.
Herald
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Added: Jul 13, 2010 9:52 pm
derekgraddy wrote:
I think Woodman stuff is pretty much staged.

it has got to be. No way he can find 1000 girls that reply on an modeling ad and on the first interview they are willing to lose their virginity on camera to a short, hairy bald guy who loves nothing more than give them the roughest anal fuck in their lives that somehow convinces them all to star in pornographic movies where DP's are the norm.

However the illusion that it is all real is just too good.
sigmaproject
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Added: Jul 14, 2010 6:25 am
The doco I saw was the one mentioned above.
I think the guy was a Journalist, and got a job with the agency as a photographer. He was wired and had a hidden camera and filmed one of the the top British model agencies that takes their new girls to Europe to gain experience.
At least thats what they tell the parents of the girls.
BigA
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Added: Jul 14, 2010 9:34 am
I think the journo's name is Mcintyre or something, does a lot of this kind of investigative stuff. Gets himself in harm's way sometimes too.

One of the amusing scenes is when he is being the "agent" and they bring girls over to him as well. He has to make excuses or says he is Gay or something.
derekgraddy
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Added: Jul 17, 2010 3:48 pm
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iloveluba2
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Added: Aug 05, 2010 9:58 pm
On all places where men meet women there are sex involved - this is life Cool