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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLOURFUL LIZA
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03-09-2003
GALITSIN ARCHIVES
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http://rapidshare.com/files/271769943/Colourful_Liza_03092003.rar

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FIELD OF DREAMS
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18-10-2003
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If there is a girl suspected of treason, it is Katia : Galitsin reported it himself. Crying or Very sad


I do not think Galitsin is entirely truthful in his blog. His main purpose is to show himself as an honourable man who is the victim of a conspiracy.

His story about how he really learned Alice's age is unbelievable. He was searching her bags to see she had not stolen anything from the hotel in Moscow, and found her ID. If he knew her well enough to search her bags, how could he have failed to search earlier for her ID, which he says he never saw? Did her earlier failures to produce her ID for him not ring alarm bells, particularly as she looked so young?

It is also unbelievable that the video with Alice was never intended to be published, and people slipped it out without his agreement.

One account is that Alice and her boyfriend demanded more money for the film, and he refused to pay. You could say it was blackmail. Then Alice (Olya Bazehova) reported him to the police. His house of cards came down as a result.

It is clear that Galitsin is particularly bitter about Katya. It looks to be that Katya made a choice to dish the dirt on Galitsin in order to save her own skin. She was in a dangerous position because she was not just a model, but also part of the organisation.

There is a thing that I see in Galitsin's blog that I do not like. He has no loyalty. He gives out personal information on some of his models that they probably expected would stay private.

I think the simplest view is the right one: the person who is really to blame for Galitsin's problems is Galitsin.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the simplest view is the right one: the person who is really to blame for Galitsin's problems is Galitsin.

Yes, I agree.
But it is necessary to know that GG had one enemy at least in his team.
It is a certainty since we found in the circuits of sharing (emule and edonkey) more than 7 videos of GG 3 - 6 months before their publication in G@l-N€ws. Especially "Cry" where Alice cries after having been raped, this video was already available in emule in March 2006.
GG was arrested some days after the publication, in the same circuit, of "Examining the housemaid" in September 2006.
I think that Alice was manipulated by an organisation (Mafia ?) who saw with a very bad eye the ascent of GG with his creation of a true publishing firm (Nud-Art where already were working very well-known photographers), the realisation of very professional videos in HD and the building of a huge second two-storeyed studio at the top of a tower of Volgograd and above a large flat.
This mafia (some people say from Italian porno) wanted to eliminate GG and it succeeded !

P.S. - An important question: who put in free access in emule the whole contents of the computer of Galitsin-Archives 28-05-2003. Who was in this epoch the owner of this computer? Do you think that he would have liked to take revenge? Would he introduce into the team of GG a "spy" ?



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But it is necessary to know that GG had one enemy at least in his team.
It is a certainty since we found in the circuits of sharing (emule and edonkey) more than 7 videos of GG 3 - 6 months before their publication in G@l-N€ws. Especially "Cry" where Alice cries after having been raped, this video was already available in emule in March 2006.


Perhaps I can explain how this happened. I found my way to a Galitsin index at one stage. I remember "avtlg" as part of the address. I was surprised to find that I could download some content, including videos that had not yet been published. I got one of Alice crying, but I do not know if it is the one you mean. So the explanation might not have been that somebody was setting out to harm Galitsin, but simply that somebody made a mistake on site security. My access lasted for a few weeks. I do not remember the dates.

The videos I found included "AliceLizaBeachGym", "AliceLizaShowerBed", "AlexaMashaICE2", "AlexaNusiaCarrot-2" and some others. Does that accord with the videos you know about?

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P.S. - An important question: who put in free access in emule the whole contents of the computer of Galitsin-Archives 28-05-2003. Who was in this epoch the owner of this computer? Do you think that he would have liked to take revenge? Would he introduce into the team of GG a "spy" ?


I have no opinion about that. Is there any reason why a member of the site could not have done it?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The videos I found included "AliceLizaBeachGym", "AliceLizaShowerBed", "AlexaMashaICE2", "AlexaNusiaCarrot-2" and some others. Does that accord with the videos you know about?


These videos never have were published by G@l-N€ws.

Here are videos published by G@l-N€ws and that we found on network several weeks or several months before:

GN 185 - 2006-03-12 - During the snowfall (Katia)(Download 2006-01-30)
GN 227 - 2006-07-30 - Autumn joy (Liza)(Download 2005-12-21)
GN 228 - 2006-08-03 - Wearsome waiting (Nusia)(Download 2006-02-26)
GN 230 - 2006-08-10 - Woolen shackles (Alexa)(Download 2006-02-13)
GN 240 - 2006-09-12 - Don't cry (Alice)(Download 2006-03-10)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Atornillor! How did you know these information? It's so nice reading about these things. Maybe you could PM me liza's real name, i'm very curious hehehehe Wink Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Atornillor! How did you know these information? It's so nice reading about these things. Maybe you could PM me liza's real name, i'm very curious hehehehe Wink Very Happy


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Thanks! Ekatrina is just as lovely Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atornillor wrote:
These videos never have were published by G@l-N€ws.

Here are videos published by G@l-N€ws and that we found on network several weeks or several months before:

GN 185 - 2006-03-12 - During the snowfall (Katia)(Download 2006-01-30)
GN 227 - 2006-07-30 - Autumn joy (Liza)(Download 2005-12-21)
GN 228 - 2006-08-03 - Wearsome waiting (Nusia)(Download 2006-02-26)
GN 230 - 2006-08-10 - Woolen shackles (Alexa)(Download 2006-02-13)
GN 240 - 2006-09-12 - Don't cry (Alice)(Download 2006-03-10)


Ator,

I hope that you do not think that I am trying to prove you wrong about things. You seem to know a great deal more than I do. I am trying to add my knowledge to yours so that we can arrive at a better idea of what really happened. This is an enterprise in historical research.

I know that some of the videos that leaked through the security hole on the Galitsin site were never published. Others were. The titles used on the atvlg site were clearly working titles, and different titles were used when some of them were published. It is interesting that the working titles were in English, giving English-speakers some idea of what they might find. Galitsin has not got English, and I think that most of his team did not either. The exception was Katya.

I have a poor memory, but I know that I found the video of Alice crying through that route. I think it was called "~AliceCryBonus", but I no longer have it so I can not be sure. I also got some others that were later published, but I can not remember which ones.

All of this happened in November/December 2005. The source dried up at the end of 2005 or very early in 2006.

Why did it happen? I do not know. At the time, I thought it was no more than a mistake. It did not cross my mind that using English language names for working files was a bit odd. Now it looks very strange. Perhaps it was the means for Galitsin to transfer files out of Russia to where his site was hosted. Do you know where that was?

One regret that I have is that I had only dialup at the time, so I downloaded only the low-resolution versions of the files, and they are fairly low in quality.

When was Alice raped? I think it was early in 2006. The "Don't Cry" video dates from late 1995.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Atornillor! How did you know these information? It's so nice reading about these things. Maybe you could PM me liza's real name, i'm very curious hehehehe Wink Very Happy


Although I do not appreciate a lot the "tone" of your intervention, I am going to answer it.

_ I do not have Liza's real name or its telephone number, but it does not disturb me.
_ I made a study very deepened by all albums of GG.

The appearance of new accessories, of the length of hair, of the length of the hair of the pubes, of the absence of these hair, the evolution of a wound, the evolution of a button on the chin, of a change of colour of the background of the studio (8 changes in 6 years), of the aspect of vegetation, snow, of the height of the water of rivers, of the joint appearance of models, jewellery, etc etc, all that can allow the true dating of an album.
So, if I see Liza with determined haircut and the trace of a small button on pubes perfectly shaved in front of an autumn vegetation with the beginning of snow I can say that the photo was taken in October or November, 2005. If I never see Liza before the background "crimson multicolour" which GG painted in December, 2005, I can say that she was not in the studio during period the background "crimson multicolour" which lasted at least 9 months.
Therefore Liza has never been in the studio in 2006 and the last photo which we have of her is of November, 2005 (perhaps at the end of October, but approximation is sufficient)

With a lot of job and obstinateness I located with great precision (meters):
_ the flat, the plan of the flat
_ the main studio, the plan of this studio, dates when the partition was taken away.
_ the new huge studio
_ the big and beautiful home of Lazarevskoe which was a "russian" pension
_ the renting of fisherman's renovated home
_ the beach of the nudists of Soloniki (very near Lazarevskoe)
_ the beach of the nudists of Volkonka
_ the source (spring)
_ the ruined house
_ the big floating fluvial station
_ the small floating fluvial station
_ the place preferred on the bank of the Volga
_ the place preferred on the bank of the Don near Kachalino
_ and still other places... (russian sauna etc )

I do not go given in only one once the result of 2 years of persevered job.
But I keep to me the pleasure of broadcasting this information little by little.

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My apologies Atornillor, i'm just excited Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I keep to me the pleasure of broadcasting this information little by little.


You, sir, are a true obsessive! I look forward to each of the instalments of the story.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, cillaodain !

I did not have access to the contents of the computer of G-N, but to the contents of the computer of G-A yes!
It was completely shared in eDonkey network.
I can say that these contents were completely written in English, the programmes of functioning also.
Katia was not the only one to speak English in the team of GG, among 8 undoubtedly 2 others.
Besides Katia GG reports another man of his team as spy.
The student Katia was not much present. Its job was especially to find clever and nice students capable of posing naked as Cveta, Liza, Natia, Uliana, Varia, Krista and etc. These models came in the studio 5 or 6 times a year during 5 or 6 days (university vacation). His hunting ground was very probably the university city of Saratov (Source: Police of Volgograd from Volgograd's TV-News).
During 5 days GG was able to make 200 albums ! This man is a tireless worker !
Do you know that they see important quantities of graffitis written in English in the buildings of the suburbs of Moscow or Volgograd ???
The names of bands and songs are all written in English!
The inaccessible dream of a Russian is the United States !!!
And we continue saying and thinking that the world is shared in two !
In the vision of videos "Dont cry" and "Examining the housemaid" I date Alice's rape in February-March, 2006.
This young and few clever girl would have waited during 6 months for the publication of these videos in September, 2006 to accuse GG !
I cannot believe in this adult and reasoned patience. It is for it that I think that she was manipulated (especially as it benefits much of the intentions of the Italian Mafia Porno).
I do not know the place of the physical site of G-N. Persons said that it was in Cyprus.
To end I will say that if I admire the artist, I have no much symphaty for the man GG and few for Valentina who used and abused Alice and Katrin also.

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You, sir, are a true obsessive! I look forward to each of the instalments of the story.

I demand the title of "maniac". It began at the end of 2006 with this photo:



43°52'10 N 39°22'52.50 E


I suddenly gave me objective to identify the precise place of shot.
It was a game of an old retired man !
But when they began and they solved they want to go on.
I needed two research years to understand that the big obviously wooden waiting room was that of a floating fluvial station and to locate it lost in the middle of trees far from the Volga.
By interesting businessmen of Moscow I think to have saved from the ruins this antique (83 years)
I needed two research years to locate the pension of Lazarevskoe. The key was given to me by the advertising of a hotel showing a uncommon house also photographed behind plan of Olesia by GG. A simple triangulation allowed me to determine the precise place of the room that Olesia occupied with... Katerina and to recognize the plan of the site (garden, terrace etc) !
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