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Popular girls you think are unattractive?
Koika. Something about her just gives me the willies for some reason. And I actually LIKE puffy nipples, so it has to be her face...
Girls you used to like but who went 'too far'?
MPL Anna/Priscila (http://www.sportyone.com/models/Priscila/) - she was so beautiful, but when she went totally gonzo like an ugly chick with the anal DP's and so on, it sort of killed it for me. Pretty girls should have some standards, IMHO.
Body parts you don't like?
Fake tits. It just advertises that the girl is a liar and that you can never trust her. Our physical appearance is how we advertise the quality of our DNA to members of the opposite sex. Surgically altering that is lying about what you are (literally) made of. Not to mention what it says about your self-esteem and emotional stability that you would do that to yourself to get more attention from the knuckle-draggers of the world...
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And let me throw a few other non-porn people under the bus while I'm at it 
Supremely over-rated:
Penelope Cruz
Julia Roberts
Kate Bosworth
J Lo
Hillary Duff
Jessica Alba
Eva Longoria
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What do I hate?
1. Bad camera work. Especially in vids.
2. Fat, ugly men with beautiful young girls.
3. Bad acting. (We know it's an act so for gods sake act).
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billmauser75
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Girls you used to like but who went 'too far'?
Kacey,
I think she looks amazing for porn.
then i saw someone wiz on her....yuck. |
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billyellis
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| Shadowman wrote: | What do I hate?
1. Bad camera work. Especially in vids.
2. Fat, ugly men with beautiful young girls.
3. Bad acting. (We know it's an act so for gods sake act). |
1. It has to be really bad (e.g. worse than Ed Powers quality) for me to care.
2. What?!?! This is the only thing that gives fat, ugly men like me hope! Don't take that away from me. 
3. I hear you, although my suggestion would be to stop trying to act at all. Just stop already with the ridiculous moaning/screaming that just makes me cringe. 
| Deity wrote: | | I hate Max Hardcore vids with the saliva pouring down the girls faces. |
At one point I enjoyed some of his stuff, but eventually those of us who are not complete a-holes have to eventually get turned off by the extreme misogyny of his work, don't we? I guess there are 2 very different kinds of porn-oisseurs - those who are here because they love women, and those that are here because they hate women. Not a big fan of the latter.
| billmauser75 wrote: | Kacey,
I think she looks amazing for porn.
then i saw someone wiz on her....yuck. |
I agree that she is really cute...but I LOVED the pissing part of that vid. I could do without the spitting and slapping and forced gagging parts, though.
Good responses. Thanks! I find this really interesting so far. 
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Some things I dislike are:
1. people complaining that a model is ugly, she has too big or too small tits, she should shave, she should go naked, etc. If you don't like a model, don't look at her! Let her decide for herself what she does and not does.
2. the continuous moaning during the sex act. My partners never moan like that but I still think they like the thing.
3. peeing and such on someone or in someone's mouth... yuck!!!
4. fake breasts - I prefer quality to quantity |
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| Quote: | | Girls you used to like but who went 'too far'? |
I like Belicia ALOT. She's perfection to me but seeing her first few vids where she's getting pissed all over, I just don't get it.
| Quote: | | Body parts you don't like? |
Fake Tits, Tans, & Bottle Blondes. |
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Nice thread idea.
1. Most hated by myself any form of plastic surgery, especially boob-jobs 
The models I liked before her bj:
- Tara White
- Nikky Blond
- Kara Bare
Kara in particular had done such a bad bj, uah 
2. Bad camera work.
I know what Shadowman mean 
A good example are the different Thainee vids in my video thread.
The girl is so cute, but the cam work is really bad.
3. Things I don't like: Peeing, puking, spanking, most forms of bdsm (not quite my cup of tea, sorry).
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| billyellis wrote: | | Am I a hypocrite for starting this thread, then? |
No I wouldn't say you are. We're all consumers of porn and like everyone who buys any product we have a right to want quality merchandise. The problem is that practically no one in the porn industry is in it to make a quality product. They're only interested in the money. Of course they might argue that why should they bother to make quality eroticism when they can make a fortune selling crap. The frustrating thing for me is that I work in theatre and I know that it isn't that much harder to do it well than it is to do it badly. It just takes a little more time, thought and planning.
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Hi,
I'm noob and found this interesting topic for my first post.
Sorry for my bad english for all my future posts!
I think you can make a difference between art and porn, but you can also find art in porn, e.g. if you take a teenfuns set with 200 pics, there are about 5 or more artistic fotos which you can seperately collect as art.
Art could be pornographic too, but not necessary.
I'm not sure, if you're looking for art like you look for porn as a satisfaction, that there's really a difference.
I like the fantasy too but sometimes it must be "direct" if you know what I mean. And on the other day I don't need anything but my mind to be satisfied. It's always different.
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| Shadowman wrote: | | billyellis wrote: | | Am I a hypocrite for starting this thread, then? |
No I wouldn't say you are. We're all consumers of porn and like everyone who buys any product we have a right to want quality merchandise. The problem is that practically no one in the porn industry is in it to make a quality product. They're only interested in the money. Of course they might argue that why should they bother to make quality eroticism when they can make a fortune selling crap. The frustrating thing for me is that I work in theatre and I know that it isn't that much harder to do it well than it is to do it badly. It just takes a little more time, thought and planning. |
On the whole I agree with you, but there's a couple of points where I differ:
I don't think the problem with porn is that the producers are only in it to make money. If that were true they would care what the consumer wants. Porn is at best a quasi-legal activity. People like M@x H and See-more Butt$ get hauled into courts all the time, all over the US. Who would go into such a business? A business where you probably have to lie in polite company about just what it is you do for a living. For the most part it's people too talentless to make it in a straight profession or too kinky to do anything with their lives but scratch their itch. Their itch, not yours. Porn is misogynistic because the people who make it are misogynistic, not because the people who watch it are.
Porn, imo, should be about exploring sexual fantasies, things you probably wouldn't or couldn't do in your real life activities. Eventually, given the billions of dollars involved, the legal issues will be settled and then there will be consumer focus groups and other market testing mechanisms which will try to find out what you want to see. Just like any other consumer-oriented business.
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| James Lewis wrote: | | Porn is misogynistic because the people who make it are misogynistic, not because the people who watch it are. |
Hmmm....that's too easy and a bit of a copout. If you are a consumer of a misogynistic product, you are contributing and supporting its continuing creation, and are thus to some degree a misogynist yourself, are you not?
I am reminded of the Nuremberg trials and the common defense that 'I only watched, I didn't participate.'
Now, I'm not saying that we are Nazis for watching porn (although I'm sure that someone will scream a long response based on deliberately misunderstanding what I am trying to say  ), but honesty requires that we need to take some responsibility for what we support (even if only passively via consumption).
So add degrading porn to my list of things I hate to see in porn. What I am always on the lookout for is something where I believe the girl is having a good time. On rare occasions this may be as a results of good acting, but either way seeing the girl get into it is what makes it hot IMHO. I am so bored of generic porn where some HGH-freak is doggying a girl who is moaning "fuck me harder, faster" over and over while checking her watch.
Little boys judge their sexual prowess by how many women they fuck; men judge it based on how much the women they are with enjoy it. So let the little boys and the sadists have their Max Hardcore, and give me some soft lighting and honestly orgasming women.
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| James Lewis wrote: | | Porn, imo, should be about exploring sexual fantasies, things you probably wouldn't or couldn't do in your real life activities. |
I respectfully disagree on that point, although I may be misinterpreting what you meant. I suppose I am in the TV-causes violence crowd. While violence certainly exists in human society, desensitizing little k.i.d.s to it and making it a routine part of their everyday life has clearly been shown to make them more prone to act violently later on in life.
And so to take your position to its logical conclusion, you would appear to be advocating that c.h.i.l.d porn and necrophilia (things one couldn't do in real life) are OK to watch because they are only fantasies? I would argue that (as with TV violence) exposure and desensitization lowers one's inhibitions in real life, making porn along those lines a very dangerous proposition.
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