Author
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 28, 2016 12:02 am
Illegal Ass 2

screenshot

Director: Chris Stream
Cast: Sasha Grey, Tobi Pacific, Sandra Parker, Toni Ribas, Gilda Roberts, Dora Venter, Manuel Ferrara, Mark Davis, David Perry, Mr. Pete
Tags: Straight, Anal, Gonzo
Description: Nasty young sluts giving up their butts!Their asses are super and they all take it in the . If you're an ass man you gotta see these cock craving bitches get stuffed in the can.Cum join the masses enjoy these hot whores take it in their Illegal Asses!!!
Duration: 00:27:16 + 00:24:03 + 00:32:56 + 00:30:32 + 00:25:15
Format: AVI
Video: MPEG-4 Visual, 512x384 (4:3), 29.970 fps, ~1 403 Kbps avg, 0.238 bit/pixel
Audio: 48.0 KHz, MPEG-1 Audio layer 3, 2 ch, ~128 Kbps
Filesize: 301 MB + 326 MB + 381 MB + 340 MB + 290 MB

screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot
screenshot

screenshot


http://rapidgator.net/file/a4fd498a8d83f28a76da0969512c551b/Illegal_Ass_2_2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/dfa0e6ee8f839ad04f069170c09cc789/Illegal_Ass_2_3.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/c8777df365690430981f47029ada467e/Illegal_Ass_2_4.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/28e8ebdff2323f1525a30bbde7443df7/Illegal_Ass_2_5.rar.html



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 27, 2016 3:57 pm
In Bed With Sofia Valentine

screenshot

Director: Greg Centauro
Cast: Sofia Valentine, David Perry, Zenza Raggi, Ruka Stone, Angelo, JT, Greg Centauro
Tags: Double Penetration, Anal, Penetration, Lesbian
Description: Her body is a sin and when she is having sex then it is amazing! Sofia Valentine is the new star of Paradise Film and director Greg Centauro was in bed with her and films that great hardcore-trip for all the fans!
Duration: 00:58:38 + 00:41:24
Format: AVI
Video: MPEG-4 Visual, 512x384 (4:3), 29.970 fps, ~1 513 Kbps avg, 0.257 bit/pixel
Audio: 48.0 KHz, MPEG-1 Audio layer 3, 2 ch, ~128 Kbps
Filesize: 695 MB + 695 MB

screenshot screenshot

screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/2ebac12aa15e2dbaed2a9edcff7881e1/In_Bed_With_Sofia_Valentine_1.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/68d2b4597b696b89e654720093f101df/In_Bed_With_Sofia_Valentine_1.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/d2c82938f88b818668a35481a6d31804/In_Bed_With_Sofia_Valentine_2.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/b654fba203cd5b0a5876df96a8183bbc/In_Bed_With_Sofia_Valentine_2.part2.rar.html



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 27, 2016 8:13 am
In culo alla linea [CXD0659]

screenshot

Year: 2010
Cast: Ilenia, Alex Magni, Franco Caderi, Stecco Ducale fansho
Tags: Oral, Sex, Mature, All Sex, Anal, Amateur

screenshot screenshot

Format: mp4
Size: 1,08 GB
Duration: 01:35:10
Video: 640x480


screenshot


http://rapidgator.net/file/2aedbfa5ce2089c94abcdf010b86703d/In_culo_alla_linea_CXD0659.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/895d418a03a6c6d1b4f540bc613096ac/In_culo_alla_linea_CXD0659.part3.rar.html

screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 26, 2016 11:50 pm
In My Gape 5

screenshot screenshot

Year: 2016
Director: Dreadneck
Cast: Kat Dior, Daisy Ducati, Kleio Valentien, Rachael Madori, Yhivi, Veronica Vain, Anna Bell Peaks, Holly Hendrix.
Tags: Anal, Toy Play, Sex, Gonzo
Description: In My Gape is a feast of the finest gaping assholes in porn getting drenched, doused and filled with huge amounts of female cum! This latest installment brings you the hottest ers in the biz. All anal and 3 way action! For the true fans out there!

screenshot screenshot

Format: mp4
Size: 1,72 GB
Duration: 02:23:27
Video: 720x404


screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/38fbbd86d47a309be0d70f300bbbdefa/In_My_Gape_5.part1.rar.html

http://rapidgator.net/file/0650552618de1047f70d1a5050a217da/In_My_Gape_5.part3.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/cad986ae333213936e315472a148e5d6/In_My_Gape_5.part4.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/7d5885e0e7e8f1ce249dc70b85570218/In_My_Gape_5.part5.rar.html

screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 26, 2016 3:44 pm
Incub o

screenshot

Year: 2004
Director: Eros Cristaldi
Cast: Corina, Denise, Sophie De Blanc, Eros Cristaldi, Sonny Barnett, Leo Miti, Costa
Tags: Sex, Oral, MILF, Anal, All Sex
Description: Dalla turista innocente alla puttana, non ci sar piet per le involontarie protagoniste di questi filmati

screenshot screenshot

Format: mp4
Size: 1,75 GB
Duration: 01:50:54
Video: 768x576


screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/732f153bb641491cce15ac2ea72f430d/Incub_o.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/fada79c39849b4b8a844b5ece12009fe/Incub_o.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/8598a555c907bf83e964ac4c4e867d1c/Incub_o.part3.rar.html

http://rapidgator.net/file/9a6a59db688b95ed3bf1ee111cb2e52b/Incub_o.part5.rar.html

screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 26, 2016 7:56 am
Infirmieres Matures

screenshot

Year: 2016
Cast: Marina Beaulieu, Terese Dune, Louise Du Lac, Olivier, Fabrice Triple X, Eddy Blackone, Seiya
Tags: Mature, Sex, Anal, MILF, All Sex
Description: Une forte fivre ou une jambe dans le pltre, un seul remde peut vous soulager : la visite d'une infirmire mature domicile. Avec leur exprience, ces tes savent dtendre les points douloureux et soulager vos couilles du trop-plein de sperme qui les rend lourdes...

screenshot screenshot

Format: mp4
Size: 1,50 GB
Duration: 01:56:23
Video: 1024x576


screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/df989f30a11d64286d17112bdbf25e10/Infirmieres_Matures.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/fef651e917ea0be0d91e79ba8a99fdac/Infirmieres_Matures.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/6d9556fcb1c1ac3227dd1ff51b280dcc/Infirmieres_Matures.part3.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/d6dc600cf43005f1f82ee911de900d94/Infirmieres_Matures.part4.rar.html

screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 25, 2016 11:52 pm
Its a Secretary Thing 2

screenshot screenshot

Director: Patrick Collins
Cast: Jenna Haze, Roxanne Hall, Kristina Rose, Evie Delatosso, Celeste Star, Charlotte Vale, Jana Jordan, James Deen, Manuel Ferrara, Tom Byron, Anthony Rosano
Tags: Gonzo, Anal, Split Scenes, Straight
Description: Patrick Collins proudly presents, It's a Secretary Thing 2, a collection of stunning superstars dressed up as seductive secretaries. Watch the sublime Kristina Rose, alongside Jenna Haze, Celeste Star, Evie Delatosso, Charlotte Vale, Roxanne Hall, and Jana Jordan. It's a Secretary Thing 2 is a depiction of fantasy role-playing at its best. In an industry that is over saturated with unoriginal couch sex, Patrick Collins focuses on creative scenarios, chemistry between performers and real female orgasms. His movies are unlike anything else in porn.
Duration: 00:07:09 + 00:36:59 + 00:40:01 + 00:40:01 + 00:26:53 + 00:31:54
Format: AVI
Video: MPEG-4 Visual, 720x400 (16:9), 23.976 fps, ~1 998 Kbps avg, 0.289 bit/pixel
Audio: 48.0 KHz, AC3, 2 ch, ~192 Kbps
Filesize: 113 MB + 582 MB + 630 MB + 630 MB + 423 MB + 502 MB

screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot

screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/4420a4556e94fde8d3079dd0c6d22bd5/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/5d5156ae6998c9274f703f32e41e89bd/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_2.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/c0b509de9ea2ac9575804de70506d676/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_2.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/d5bf10fd294102dbc881a136e35b06db/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_3.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/f5096802526f6c05f94cb5e196e814e3/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_3.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/6ecf8c85b0e53f6b71652a21c9d64f3a/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_4.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/5a0bade0998be064431ad8cd3abbb995/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_4.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/a650e724345bea088ce9a32a28ac3e24/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_5.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/e5a66507e1bc2f6f63710d1e70cc422d/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_5.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/4e7cb82fc62a71432dc8933cdb8c0336/Its_a_Secretary_Thing_2_6.part1.rar.html




----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 25, 2016 7:42 am
Ivana Sugar The Russian Porn Star Ivana Sugar

screenshot screenshot

Year: 2014
Cast: Isabella Clark, Ivana Sugar, Mira Sunset, Nicole Smith
Tags: Anal, Sex, Russian, Lesbian, Gonzo, All Sex, Split Scenes
Description: In DDF Productions' Ivana Sugar The Russian Porn Star, you'll get to see Ivana doing what she does best, bringing pleasure to the men and women who cross her path, dispensing orgasms like she's some sort of cum fairy.
Duration: 00:21:01 + 00:15:16 + 00:30:25 + 00:19:59 + 00:10:02 + 00:20:42
Format: MPEG-4
Video: AVC, 960x540 (16:9), 30.000 fps, ~2 900 Kbps avg, 0.186 bit/pixel
Audio: 48.0 KHz, AAC LC, 2 ch, ~128 Kbps
Filesize: 456 MB + 328 MB + 643 MB + 373 MB + 186 MB + 449 MB

screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot

screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/62ecd44821a62274d38460ba2b5e3e02/Ivana_Sugar_The_Russian_Porn_Star_Ivana_Sugar_1.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/25854f4a980bfc1aa3a9823624ec7d2f/Ivana_Sugar_The_Russian_Porn_Star_Ivana_Sugar_1.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/f872011ef8dec57074335198d5829f94/Ivana_Sugar_The_Russian_Porn_Star_Ivana_Sugar_2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/54164dda0399a052051d46db73c26c73/Ivana_Sugar_The_Russian_Porn_Star_Ivana_Sugar_3.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/7b9163292fd7425c3d31057c76408860/Ivana_Sugar_The_Russian_Porn_Star_Ivana_Sugar_3.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/1cb8cce63672fb8b8ea16572de6e4f9b/Ivana_Sugar_The_Russian_Porn_Star_Ivana_Sugar_4.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/5eae149145f9a451254b019ae80a06af/Ivana_Sugar_The_Russian_Porn_Star_Ivana_Sugar_5.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/d1168b34b732f29f4feeec4932cfd98c/Ivana_Sugar_The_Russian_Porn_Star_Ivana_Sugar_6.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/a92bd9d687c4e7db99ae1fc15081adeb/Ivana_Sugar_The_Russian_Porn_Star_Ivana_Sugar_6.part2.rar.html



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 24, 2016 11:36 pm
Jada Stevens Ass

screenshot screenshot

Year: 2016
Cast: Jada Stevens, Ashley Fires
Tags: Compilation, Big Butt, Butt, Anal, Brunette, Gonzo
Description: Watch the ever so beautiful Jada Stevens in some of her greatest anal scenes this phat assed slut has to offer. Jada enslaves her men with her delicious behind and offers up that sacred brown eye to all that are willing!!

screenshot screenshot

Format: mp4
Size: 1,76 GB
Duration: 01:53:48
Video: 720x404


screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/abd7539c0708eecfe035fe605506e479/Jada_Stevens_Ass.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/b00e30bf091585d3fd2426457bf76b8b/Jada_Stevens_Ass.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/bfa9aa4e3d4e9fbfa1acb82b00d1ec73/Jada_Stevens_Ass.part3.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/b655cbd732fe0dcd17af9527fdb8a973/Jada_Stevens_Ass.part4.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/a62e9080db8eaa6ae20b4f9d70a97088/Jada_Stevens_Ass.part5.rar.html

screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 24, 2016 3:31 pm
Je Demonte Les Meufs de Mon Quartier

screenshot

Year: 2016
Director: Oliver Sweet
Cast: Amel Annoga, Cristal Ros, Kaily, Michael Cheritto
Tags: Sex, Anal, All Sex, Fetish, Public
Description: Michael aime tester les meufs du quartier, il les emmne au vert, les pipote un peu et leur dglingue svrement le cul. C'est pas un romantique, ni un lover, il fait du biff et c'est pour a qu'elles veulent toutes se le faire.

screenshot screenshot

Format: mp4
Size: 1,26 GB
Duration: 01:33:18
Video: 1024x576


screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/bef2d0246c4b03d2818d378f3d77b3e2/Je_Demonte_Les_Meufs_de_Mon_Quartier.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/0efccb517901214f5b6dea36ab9daa7f/Je_Demonte_Les_Meufs_de_Mon_Quartier.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/baab02254425fd4f6c88bca6b86c2eb4/Je_Demonte_Les_Meufs_de_Mon_Quartier.part3.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/50df2e6da52d44c33b56c1594465adae/Je_Demonte_Les_Meufs_de_Mon_Quartier.part4.rar.html

screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 24, 2016 7:34 am
JE PRENDS CHER ... ET JAIME CA

screenshot screenshot

Year: 2015
Cast: Agness, Dominica Phoenix, Nadia Bella, PussyKat, Jay Dee
Tags: Big Tits, Anal, Fetish, Sex, Threesome, All Sex, Oral
Description: Ces jolies jeunes femmes sont de vritables obsdes sexuelles. Qu'elles se prennent une ou deux bites la fois, elles ne sont pas facilement satisfaites

screenshot screenshot

Format: mp4
Size: 1,64 GB
Duration: 02:01:35
Video: 1024x576


screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/34ca889a512977c6aebc4e87e6145494/JE_PRENDS_CHER_ET_JAIME_CA.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/d3fc67e67e0865fbbe92954f18aada0c/JE_PRENDS_CHER_ET_JAIME_CA.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/355d6937a0ae1ef824f55b889c402f43/JE_PRENDS_CHER_ET_JAIME_CA.part3.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/dae88cf103c9d2f2fc3da4639c6fb0c0/JE_PRENDS_CHER_ET_JAIME_CA.part4.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/d7786342369d5e1e8a678fe4fd3939f6/JE_PRENDS_CHER_ET_JAIME_CA.part5.rar.html

screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 23, 2016 11:08 pm
Jenna Haze Is Ravaged

screenshot

Director: Skeeter Kerkove
Cast: Jenna Haze, Valentina, Black Diamond, Nasty, Marta, Eddie J, Carl Prince, Mark Wood, Jerry
Tags: Sex, Anal, Oral, All Sex, Toys
Description: This is the most anal I've ever done!' Jenna Haze. Pretty much says it all! See the anal craving Jenna Haze take on 2 big studs for an anal romp that you'll never forget! Jenna gets tossed and turned, pointed in every position and ...
Duration: 01:05:56 + 01:23:25
Format: AVI
Video: MPEG-4 Visual, 512x288 (16:9), 29.970 fps, ~1 344 Kbps avg, 0.304 bit/pixel
Audio: 48.0 KHz, MPEG-1 Audio layer 3, 2 ch, ~128 Kbps
Filesize: 699 MB + 699 MB

screenshot screenshot

screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/2de6b7f97187b225decd3014aa82a995/Jenna_Haze_Is_Ravaged_1.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/9e28f72678fe365aed32413e0d09edb4/Jenna_Haze_Is_Ravaged_1.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/daa0e004a9c30a84fa32c5f4b399baa6/Jenna_Haze_Is_Ravaged_2.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/d4deec88544a692d9ddb6300168709ff/Jenna_Haze_Is_Ravaged_2.part2.rar.html



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 23, 2016 3:28 pm
Jeux libertins 3eme manche

screenshot

Year: 2016
Director: Carmen Gonzag
Cast: Amater
Tags: Oral, Group, Blow, Big Asses, Sex, Big Dick, Anal, All Sex, Big Boobs, Boobs, Big Tits

screenshot screenshot

Format: mp4
Size: 478,05 MB
Duration: 00:59:40
Video: 1024x576


screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/64c763743b10036a4a246890c17caca1/Jeux_libertins_3eme_manche.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/7f5a994d2e1b50bc4420e7d710a38329/Jeux_libertins_3eme_manche.part2.rar.html

screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 23, 2016 7:24 am
Jon Doughs Butt Cream Pie 2

screenshot

Director: Jon Dough
Cast: Holly Day, Kelly Kroft, Haley Paige, Sophia, Sabina
Tags: Anal, Cumshot, Threesome, Cumshots, Gaping, Butt, Cream, Creampie, Gonzo, Cream Pie
Description: More Delicious Creamy Fun from Jon Dough Productions!! 5 Cream Filled Ass Pies!! These hot little sluts are ravenous for some gooey man jizz in between their ass cheeks. These girls are stretched, gaping, and waiting for your warm cum!! Don't keep them waiting! Enjoy!

screenshot screenshot

Format: mp4
Size: 1,25 GB
Duration: 02:31:56
Video: 640x480


screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/0bd4d606315052fc43eab0a63644be77/Jon_Doughs_Butt_Cream_Pie_2.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/91e4230c1d9db2d6a59427c044c2c983/Jon_Doughs_Butt_Cream_Pie_2.part2.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/7406c5d2749ed43fd59ab757fbd9f926/Jon_Doughs_Butt_Cream_Pie_2.part3.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/fad204331f31b5d09ca2eaaca8643c47/Jon_Doughs_Butt_Cream_Pie_2.part4.rar.html

screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot
screenshot screenshot screenshot screenshot



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)
astalavistia
Godfather of Grandfather of Forumophilia
Added: Oct 22, 2016 11:04 pm
Jules Jordan Milf All Stars Jules Jordan

screenshot screenshot

Year: 2009
Director: Jules Jordan
Cast: Samantha, Mina, Jewel Denyle, Justine Romee, Buffy Van Norton
Tags: Compilation, Anal, Mature, Gonzo, Straight, MILF
Description: Which MILF pornstars are good enough to make Jules Jordan's all stars list? Join us and see why Mina,Samantha, Jewel De'Nyle, Justine Romee, and Buffy Van Norton are truly MILF all stars.
Duration: 01:06:35 + 01:03:19
Format: AVI
Video: MPEG-4 Visual, 576x432 (4:3), 29.970 fps, ~1 268 Kbps avg, 0.170 bit/pixel
Audio: 48.0 KHz, MPEG-1 Audio layer 3, 2 ch, ~178 Kbps
Filesize: 699 MB + 696 MB

screenshot screenshot

screenshot

http://rapidgator.net/file/d28bef9da2dfd8f9a3f3627a7329c814/Jules_Jordan_Milf_All_Stars_Jules_Jordan_1.part1.rar.html
http://rapidgator.net/file/848d005817db57d55d877980ce29bafe/Jules_Jordan_Milf_All_Stars_Jules_Jordan_1.part2.rar.html

http://rapidgator.net/file/e3f3422e1cdc8335b69ad699a943d371/Jules_Jordan_Milf_All_Stars_Jules_Jordan_2.part2.rar.html



----Enjoy----
_________________
My Other Topics (Czechs, Parties, Picture Sets and others)