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billyellis
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Added: Apr 03, 2008 5:02 pm
The hilarious argument between a model and the fans sharing her (pretty boring) material here:

https://www.forumophilia.com/topic45579.html

made me think about the different types of internet models and why many of them often think more highly of themselves than they really should. So I have constructed what I consider to be a broad classification of the various model types as I see things.

Debate is encouraged.

I group them into 3 categories (Pretty, Cute, and Nice Body), and separate each category into High self-esteem and Low self-esteem sub-groupings.

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Pretty Girls

High - pretty and they know it; can be successful as permanent teases, often not the brightest bulbs in the box, may not be very nice human beings because they are allowed to get away with not developing much of a personality by everyone from day one

Low - can be the real mean girls; smart enough to realize that no one is perfect and be suspicious of the special treatment they receive; turn their insecurities on themselves and/or others, will usually end up going more explicit to keep getting the attention they don't know what to do without because they don't believe that they can stay soft and maintain success (mostly because everyone around them is whispering this in their ear all the time)


Cute Girls

High - adorable, happy; enjoy the attention, are satisfied with what they have and are content to flaunt it; show quite a bit, but never go too hard

Low - want more than what they have, often will try to 'upgrade' with surgery, etc. to move up the scale, but this usually destroys the distinctive cuteness they had and makes them one of a million surgically altered skanks who are advertising to the world that they don't think much of themselves and are inviting everyone else to treat them accordingly; fade away quickly once their cute factor is gone, occasionally come back with really hardcore stuff to try and reignite their 'careers'


Nice Body Girls

High - not pretty and they know it, but show what they have and probably appreciate the extra money and have real long term plans for their lives; not around for long

Low - don't have any real plans, hang around long term for the attention they are not getting anywhere else; become pornstars

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PH (5%) are rare, probably because most beautiful girls/women have plenty of opportunities in life other than taking of their clothes on the internet. PL are more common (15%), likely because while they are pretty they can't/don't think they can get any other opportunities and/or because they simply crave the attention.

CH (10%) are the real darlings of the industry. They are not high maintenance like the pretty girls, and yet they attract rabid fan followings because they are accessible and down to earth. CL (20%) start off well, but are not secure enough to be patient and take what they can get and usually need a bigger 'fix' rather quickly, resulting in surgery and or porn (these become the good looking pornstars) within a year.

NBH (40%) are the meat and potatoes of the industry, the basic sites that keep the agencies running while they keep their eyes out for the undiscovered CH's out there. NBL (10%) are less common because while they have something we would want to see, they are not confident enough to think that way, and very few of them actually can imagine themselves as making any money doing it.

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The big problem we face as fans is that while we can instinctively group new models into these categories based on the user frame of reference (the real world), many girls often see themselves in a higher category than they really are (a function of being around a lot of flatterers all the time). These girls then tend to get upset when fans (who see them for what they really are and therefore have certain expectations about their career paths) start clamoring for more and more explicit nudity because it challenges their misconception that they are all Pretties. The ones you see flaming on message boards and forums are either PL's, who doubt their attractiveness and feel pressure to get more explicit, or Cutes who get delusions of grandeur once their sites start to attract paying members. The H's will never respond to fan pressure, but the L's inevitably do, either by engaging in screaming matches on message boards...or by going harder.

All models should instead assume that they are NBs to start with, and then if they get very successful they can consider themselves Cutes. But they should always be working on real life plans like the NBH's so that they have something else to fall back on (e.g., an education) when their 15 minutes are up. I hope the model in the linked thread above is saving some of her earnings. From the sounds of it (everyone in the company driving new cars), they are all using her and she will not have a penny to her name once is used up and tossed aside, and then she will be older, less attractive, and have no fall-back plan. Girls who get into the business thinking they are Pretties do not end well, unless they are part of the very small percentage of actually pretty girls with high self-esteem.
billyellis
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Added: Apr 03, 2008 5:20 pm
So now the fun part is putting different girls into the different categories like so:

PH
PL
CH
CL
NBH
NBL

PH - Zoey Model, Masha Star, Katie Fey, Aimee Sweet, Natasha Moore
PL - Jana Rocks,
CH - Tiffany Teen, Pattycake, Molly Model, Josie Model
CL - Peachez, Diddy, Alana Langford, Melissa Lincoln
NBH - Next Door Nikki, Ashley Robbins, lots of other big tit models
NBL - Katerina Konec

Think they are higher than they really are - Next Door Nikki, Heidi Honey, Ms Britt

Beautiful girls who must do hardcore because they actually like it - Sophie Sweet, Sharon M

EDIT:
Italics are the 'original' girls of each type as I remember things back in the my early days of internet porn, although I am sure there were earlier girls that I missed out on. Enlighten me...
DiabolicAngelz
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Added: Apr 04, 2008 12:27 am
Keep it going,I like your thoughts! Wink Really instersting thread.
To the example of Britt:I share your thoughts,if its the way we guess,I hope she learns from it.If she's the clever girl she pretends to be,she should know it,after she fell right down on her pretty little face.
billyellis
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Added: Apr 07, 2008 3:53 pm
I just found the ZoeyModel thread.

https://www.forumophilia.com/topic22339.html

She definitely was the original PH, IMHO. Never took anything off, but she was like the pretty girl in your high school that you could have stared at all day (but obviously couldn't). I actually paid to join her site once. It was many years ago before forums and file sharing and so forth, but still. She was hot enough to pay $ to look at with her clothes ON and she knew it. Hot stuff. Cool
racerxxx-77
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Added: Apr 07, 2008 4:39 pm
I never met a internet model in real life. But i have met several dancing girls strippers etc. No matter how pretty from cute to the hottest dancer in the club. They all had some low self esteem issues and most were insecure. Now a few were doing it for college money and just liked to show off. Most of these girls end up drinking and doing drugs and fall prey to lesbian strippers and end up trickin to make extra money.


I belive your correct with your analiys of the internet model. It does seem safer for them to have there own website and control what they do or dont do. The porn industry will use them up and throw them away when they are done with them. Great post you have started.
billyellis
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Added: Apr 09, 2008 3:02 am
Thanks. While there are definitely the handful of unbelievably narcissistic bitches that run their mouths and generate a backlash of misogyny, doing a disservice to women everywhere, I personally think it is important to remember that the large majority of models are not that way and that many of them are just as insecure as the rest of us (and maybe more so).
Giant Panda
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Added: Apr 09, 2008 8:44 am
Interesting thread. Going to subscribe to this thread and hope for more replies with who think belongs wear. Personally, I don't follow one specific model enough to know where they belong, so I'll let you, the professionals, do the work and I'll be entertained. Smile
billyellis
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Added: Apr 09, 2008 3:24 pm
Yeah, I've been a little surprised that no one has added their thoughts on where certain girls should go. If you post an opinion in just about any thread, you will immediately have 10 other people jump down your throat with other opinions. Smile

But ASK for opinions and apparently you get no response! Well, I guess the intro post was a bit long... Rolling Eyes

But I really am interested in how other people view (1) the same girls I listed above, and (2) other ones I don't know much about. I thought that if we got a good list going and there was pretty consistent placement of a lot of models, it would be a good starting point to find other girls similar to ones you like.
tgg
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Added: Apr 20, 2008 1:02 am
i don't know much about internet models tbh, always followed vids and now to a lesser extent sites with various models.

but your categories made sense, and the models i knew (next door nikki, katerina konec) seemed to fit right in to your decription. Hopefully this will bump ur thread and get some comments coming, cheers,
tgg
iwashere555
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Added: May 13, 2008 2:29 am
hmm i think this post is quite resonable cause i like cute girls and i c now ith hard to find.
dirtydrooler
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Added: May 17, 2008 12:12 am
Interesting thread.

Wether a girl is pretty or not is hard to decide because everyone likes different girls, but the two subcategories is something I've thought of myself.

A minority of the girls are smart and use the fact that us guys are willing to pay to see them naked. Kate of KatesPlayground is a good example.

The majority are girls that need to hear that they are beautiful and in the wrong/right (depends of how you see it) hands will end up in porn but otherwise will show more and more until someone marries them. I believe Diddy, Serena, Jana, Sandy and a whole lot others belong here.

Then there are some that are hard to categorize. They might be in one of the categories but the guy exploiting them treats them as if they were in the other, or they might have started out as one of them but grow up and changes totally. The fact that you can't be certain what's gonna happend is what have kept some of these sites going for a very long time. Peachez is a good example. Who can tell if the resent bj's is an example of her using us or someone using her?
billyellis
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Added: May 17, 2008 2:40 pm
Good contribution, drooler. Thanks. Smile