I thought gay porn wasn't allowed here.

Not hating on anyone, not at all, but males engaging in sexual acts with each other, no matter how pretty they may appear, is considered gay porn, isn't it? A video of a dude jerking off or getting fucked by another man really isn't what i was hoping to see when i scroll through search results of female porn stars.

Yes, there are "intersex conditions" that make males grow breasts at puberty. Sometimes these ppl are feminine looking and can even pass as women. But they're still technically males. They have a penis. And if they're having sex with another male...well, that's technically gay porn. Here's some examples of what i mean:

https://www.forumophilia.com/topic685254-360.html#43670793

If it's decided this is not gay porn (although i don't see how it's possible since male+male) can we at least figure out a way to prevent those types of posts from randomly showing up in unrelated searches?

Thanks

And there was me thinking that the LGBT Community was accepted in the modern enlightened world. By ' gay porn ' I assume you mean sex between members of the same sex but surely if you want that banned then it is goodbye to lesbian and bisexual porn as well. I think most people can accept a difference between male porn and shemale porn and also accept the stance of Forumophilia on the subject. There are several sorts of porn such as toilet porn and BDSM that I don't like but stumble across by accident and I have little interest in male/male or male/shemale porn but a lot of people enjoy it. It is up to Forumophilia what they allow or not allow but if you used your definition of gay porn then everything covered by the LGBT definition would have to be banned and if I stumble across
porn that I don't like I just don't look at it but would never suggest it should be banned.

No, i mean gay porn as in males having sex with males. The word "gay" wasn't specific enough for the feminists, though, neither was equal treatment under the law (a different story), so they came up with "lesbians" to represent gay females. Ever since then the general consensus in society is that 'gay' refers to gay men and "lesbian" refers to gay women. Don't ask me why, i just work here.

It's this understanding of the terms in #14.


14. Prohibited content

Under-age (virginz.info content included, NO Stickam webcam recordings or Pablolapiedra material)
Animal (****philia)
Gay / bisexual
Death (snuff)
Scat/Shit
**** porn/**** sex
Warez
Music
Mainstream movies (Hollywood blockbuster etc.)

This list is not conclusive. We reserve the right to take appropriate action for content not covered by the list. Forumophilia is not a forum for extreme or illegal porn. Ask if you are in doubt.


"Gay/bisexual" is referring to males, not females. This has always been the rule on this website, since its creation (this isn't my first account). It's not like there's a shortage of gay-only porn forums out there you know. I'd like to know when the lgbt community is going to start accepting non-lgbt ppl as ppl with different lifestyles and preferences and leaving it at that. You don't see straight ppl trying to post their porn on gay-only websites, do you? Live at let live, man. Gay ppl can do whatever they want, more power to them. But so can everyone else. That principle must be respected by all. Just because a website doesn't want a particular kind of pornography on it, that's not some kind of attack.

"It is up to Forumophilia what they allow or not allow..." - Yes, it is. I'm in full agreement.

"...but if you used your definition of gay porn then everything covered by the LGBT definition would have to be banned..." - No. As i stated above, my definition is not "same sex" it's "sex between males" only, as per societies adoption of the terms "gay" and "lesbian."

Look, i don't have a problem with anyone being gay, it's none of my business. I have family members who are gay. It's no big thing. But it would be if they were having gay sex in front of me and demanding that i accept it, whatever that means. It's okay for either gay or straight websites to have only the type of content they wish. We're in a free market and there's alternatives everywhere. It's okay.

I accept that there is a difference on interpretation and that gay females are usually referred to as lesbians but if there is such a thing as a legal definition of gay it does mean attraction/sex between people of the same sex. Marriage between same sex couples is referred to as gay marriage whether it be male or female. The point I was making is that the Forum is correct in a more lenient attitude to posts rather than adopting a strict legal interpretation. How many posts would be deleted if a strict interpretation of ' **** sex ' was en****? I think that most of us accept there is a difference with shemales and are prepared to accept a tolerant approach on the subject even if it is a minority interest.

I really don't think it's a matter of being tolerant or not. Nor is it about attitudes or acceptance. The rules are clear, this websites loves rules. #14 leaves no wiggle room for interpretation. So then the question really becomes 'Are the ppl in those videos males having sex with other males?' I don't see any other alternative than to say the answer is yes.

So then what happens if it's allowed to continue? Is it fair that only gay males with intersex conditions can have videos posted here but not other 'gay porn' content be allowed? Seems like splitting hairs to me. It's 'gay porn' regardless of whether one of the men has breasts and presents themselves as women. If that's what you're in to there's a world of forums on the net dedicated strictly to that.

"**** sex"? A strict interpretation is already understood here and is banned 100%. "**** porn/**** sex". In all my years here i've never seen a video where a woman is being ****d, or a man for that matter. Not even in realistic role-play/acting. So based only on my own experience here i would have to say the number of videos that would be deleted if a "strict interpretation of '**** sex' was en****" (since that is already the case as per #14's ban of "**** porn/**** sex" content) would be very, very, very small.

I view the content in question as very 'extreme' based on societal norms (and this forums own policies) and would suggest, respectfully, that members begin reporting the posts when they come across them so they can be removed by an Admin later at their discretion. Or amend #14 by removing "gay/bisexual" from the list...and hey, while we're at it, why not just get rid of #14 completely?

Personally i've always enjoyed this forum BECAUSE the content here has certain limitations. There's consistency and reliability. If i wanted to see men screwing each other there's no shortage of that on other forums on the internet...so that's where i would go. This website is not the only source of pornography on the internet. (understatement of the century) If it were, then your argument would have some weight and i'd even consider adopting it just out of fairness. But it's not. It's just one out of millions,, maybe billions, who knows?

It's really easy. If you want traditional types of porn, the kind that is most widely watched by most of the population, come to forums like this one (of which there are too many to count). If you want "Gay Porn" then go to forums those forums. (of which...) If you want to see girls kicking men hard in their nuts, tickle torture, lesbians, scat , milfs, German porn, animal porn, snuff role play, etc. etc., go to those forums.(...) They're all just a few keystrokes away.

Hopefully an Admin will have seen this by now and offer some solution.

We will obviously have to agree to disagree although I do think that you are adopting an attitude of trying to get something banned because you don't like it. LGBT refers to 4 different categories - you are reducing it to two to suit your arguement. As for **** then, quite bluntly you are wrong. In Law if you have sex with somebody because you have drugged them, hypnotised them, blackmailed them, broke in to their home and tied them up or threatened them etc etc then you are guilty of ****. There are loads of posts of this nature on the forum. Be careful what you wish for especially as I still argue that gay covers lesbian sex as well

"...although I do think that you are adopting an attitude of trying to get something banned because you don't like it." - Actually it's always been banned, i'm just trying to have the existing ban en****. You're right, though, i am pointing it out because i don't like it. What other reason could there possibly be? It's not a crime to not want to see men having sex with each other. It doesn't mean i'm "homophobic" or against ppl being gay, i'm not. Ppl can do whatever they want with each other as long as they're consenting adults.

"...you are reducing it to two to suit your arguement." - Actually just one. Men having sex with men.

"As for **** then..." - Acting out a role-play parody with consenting adults is not against the law by any stretch of the imagination. Just look at all the movies and TV shows where **** is depicted as real as possible by professional actors. Are they guilty of anything? Obviously not.

"...especially as I still argue that gay covers lesbian sex as well." - I don't think that's possible, i mean in the context of the rules. Technically you're correct, and i agree with you, that "gay" covers all men and women who have same-sex relations. But that's not how this website is defining the terms. Otherwise they wouldn't have a section labeled "LESBIAN VIDEOS".

You have completely misrepresented my point. LGBT is accepted as a term the world over and covers 4 specific different groups. You are maintaining that as far as porn is concerned B and T do not exist and are all covered by G which, to my way of thinking, is wrong. They are four different categories for a reason - they are different. As far as ****/**** sex is concerned - are you being serious? All porn is roleplay involving professionals being paid to perform - are you seriously suggesting that the exclusion only applies to factual ****s? I doubt if such a thing actually exists. A strict interpetation
of the exclusion would mean a lot of posts being banned but in reality it is only intended to exclude roleplay of, for example, a girl being dragged off a path and violently ****d or assaulted.
On a Forum such as this rules should be for guidance and no more that that. Your point reminds me of a similar argument I saw a while ago on a different site. There is a lot of porn made involving older women having sex with younger men. In some cases the woman is his teacher, his neighbor, his moms friend , his friends mom etc etc. In many cases the woman, in the roleplay, is his mom or his aunt and this guy wanted all such material removed because he found incest abhorent and there was a rule banning incest. Quite clearly the rule was in place to ban the posting of real or very realistic incest films and not films of well known mature pornstars in bed with a younger actor who just happens to call her mom for the purpose of the plot.

"They are four different categories for a reason - they are different." - The only ones that are banned are one's where males are having sex with other males. And officially i think it's now LGBTTQQIAAP...that's not me trying to be funny, that's the title, at least according to google and wiki and a few sites from the search.