Act against illegal downloading

Well, wide and delicate subject... (Is there a topic about that here ?)

I'm for freedom, of course, with respect of the authors (Buy what you really like and do not make money with the download at least...)

In France, legislation has been passed against illegal downloading, after two warnings, your phone line is suspended and you continue to pay for it anyway. But I do not know what their methods of investigation to trap.

Many countries are present here (I love this forum )
I would like to know the position of their government on this issue.

An harmonization of prohibition seems complicated.

I can't remember the last time I paid for porn or music. It's a damn shame, but I blame the greedy record and movie producers. Somewhere along the lines they invented CDs which were cheaper to make, but cost twice as much as a cassette tape. I simply could not affor $18 for a CD that only had 2 songs I liked and tired of quickly. People who do almost nothing are making more than the artists themselves.

For porn, well I paid a lot of good money for very poor merchandise when I was young. Tired of throwing money away on shitty porn, I turned to the internet. Every so often I've found good quality porn with beautiful women and have paid for it, but only found these sites after finding it on free sites. In these tough economic times, I have decided to support my local talent by tipping the strippers who work hard for that dollar right here in my own community.

I still buy movies because I like having the real deal on my shelf instead of a pile of bootleg discs.

thebaba wrote:

It was on the news this morning - the French "three strikes and you're out" legislation did not pass. Apparently, so many of the french parliment thought it would pass easily, and so did not turn up to vote: result, defeated by 6 votes.

Long weekends, dontcha just love 'em?

Doesn't mean we can relax, this is badly considered legislation which could punish nearly all computer users, without trial, or criminal acts. If you have a wireless network, and someone else uses it to download copyright material from the car outside, you will loose your internet connection. Fair? I don't think so.

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Which is why this kind of legislation should be hard to pass or enforce...too much room for "reasonable doubt" and one way or another, that could/would eventually be brought up.

tzman wrote:

The whole idea of this legislation is that it never comes to court. "Reasonable doubt" or not is irrelevant if no-one is listening...

Deity wrote:That's also why I only buy what deserves to be on my collection.
when I could not access the internet, I bought my discs sometimes random, with excellent surprises and often some deception. I had no money to be disappointed, like you.
Now that the preview is possible, we consume music or films... too much fast. Quantity before quality is become a custom.

Deity wrote:yep I bought a lot of dvds, Siffredi's films, net pass... also. I completed my part of the contract .
Like I said in the Dilligaf's thread "20th Birthday of the Internet" : Small step for men, and big step for prOn.
Cheers for your local support, really cool.

Deity wrote:Exactly what I mean, thank you Deity.

AltonTowers wrote:AltonTowers wrote:And good news !
Yes, really disconcerting, I can not bear our politicians, but that's helping !!
Thank you Alton Towers.

tzman wrote:Absolutely, but tracking someone on the net is not that hard, I just hope that "they" won't have the law behind them.
Thank you tzman.

Many of the laws like the French "3 Strikes" legislation are terrible, because they make cops and judges of private companies. Instead of going to court and having some protections, they let the private company do whatever they want to punish you, and you have no rights left.

This is happening many places in America. The MPAA or the cable company can decide to cut off your service or charge you $$$$ thousands just because they say so, not because of any legal proceeding. If you want to fight it, then YOU have to hire a lawyer and go to court, costing you more $$$$ thousands. They can fuck you for the cost of a single piece of paper generated by computer, but you can only fight back by spending lots of your time and money.

This isn't right, but it is what happens when the government and the companies get together and decide that they can abuse the citizens however they want and you are powerless to defend yourself. The best you can do is write to your representatives in the US, but they are all paid millions by the MPAA to do their dirty work. In France and Europe, people are more willing to actively protest in the streets, so maybe there is some hope that France will resist being made slaves to the companies!

truffle wrote:
good analysis, but despite differences of culture in europe sanctions from private companies can happen, as you said. Nonetheless, France remains a country of pirates! I do not think we will retain our relative impunity for a long time ...

Thank you for your intervention.